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If it was easy I suspect it’d have seen a repeat, but it hasn’t, so we’d still say it’s one of the hardest.

We always recommend trying before you buy for this reason, because everyone’s foot shape is different and what works for one person won’t work for the next. Instead of throwing them away why not return them?

@@ukclimbingofficial Well I wear EU42 in street shoes and my mondopoint is meassured to 265mm and with fully crimped toes it is 254mm. The Viper S size 41.5 is recommended for mondopoint 265mm, but it meassured 233mm inside length. So regardless of shape it is too short even if I cut of my toes. Size EU44 is 253mm inside length and might fit, but that is too late now. That means upsize 2 EU sizes from street shoe, not downsize 1-1.5 as is the general recommendation.

I don’t think you can fit climbing shoes by numbers, or at least not those numbers. It’s best to have a qualitative approach (ie try them on, see how they fit/feel) as opposed to a quantitative one.

It's Rockfax Digital. Take a look here: rockfax.digital/

You could get cheaper, but they wouldn’t be anywhere near as well made. Buy cheap, buy twice (or more).

I could have bought them in the SportOkay sale for 85€ just a couple of days ago. Listed price and market price often vary quiet a bit for beginner shoes.

This is a major part of the reason we quote RRP, as opposed to discounted price, as the latter changes all the time

Less time = less detailed, and we opt for a through review so that it’s actually useful, as opposed to a short one which isn’t.

As per the comment below, these are going to last a lot longer than a couple of months if you’re only using them twice a week.

I would argue otherwise, because if you only use it in reactive mode - which is what 99% of people buying this torch will use it in - then those are the figures that matter the most to people.

​@@ukclimbingofficial does that mean you don't know the battery runtime for those modes or you don't want to reveal it?

Neither, I know it - and have written it all up in the review - I’m just saying that the information you’ve requested is meaningless as it doesn’t bear relation to the actual times you get in reality. Here’s a link to the written review, where we compare the NAO RL to the Black Diamond Distance 1500 and Silva FREE: www.ukclimbing.com/gear/camping/lighting/performance_headtorches_-_petzl_nao_rl_silva_free_and_black_diamond_distance_1500-15561

We haven’t changed anything, so I’m not sure what’s going on there - other than that sounds like an extremely long and annoying advert!! We’ll have a look at the settings and see if anything strange is going on.

@@ukclimbingofficial Appears to be a RUclips change to serving "server-side" ads in certain regions. Not great!

Funny(ish) story there - we filmed it on Friday, but the files were corrupted, so we had to go back earlier today to film it. Rapid turnaround from Nick, our cameraman/editor.

@@ukclimbingofficial Nick did a great job 👍

It’s a good set too btw 💪

It’s very, very soft so I think your feet would end up in agony if you tried to use them as a crack shoe. That said, never say never - I’m sure there’d be specific problems or routes where they’d be great 🤷🏼‍♂️

Good question and one we deliberated raising within the video, but decided not to. In short I’d say that the Veloce Lace is more performance oriented than the Origin VS, whereas the Origin VS has more of a focus on having a relaxed, comfortable fit. Where it gets complex is that the Veloce Lace is also really comfy (and quite relaxed) and the Origin VS also performs really well. Basically they’re similar, but different. I think the closure on the Veloce Lace allows a more precise fit/feel, which perhaps gives it the edge, whereas the single strap on the Origin adds to that nice, relaxed vibe that it’s got going on. Both great shoes!!

Good question. At a guess, either two or three times what you’d use for a jacket.

I'm just glad you're talking about the waterproofs and not about me 🤣

That recent video of Will trying Spots of Time is brilliant from this point of view. You can tell from the look on his face how much fun he's having and when he manages to do a move he comes off absolutely buzzing. He's just living his best life, doing what he does, and keeping us all entertained along the way.

@@ukclimbingofficial really hope to see him try Gioia someday for the historical perspective. I think that's the original 8C+ at this point

They're pretty small and slopey. You can get replicas made by Ned Feehally here: www.etsy.com/uk/listing/1699811647/the-acethe-joker-replica-handholds

The Future 😎

We did deliberate this, but decide we were going to cover it next week when the footage is released. But for now, read out report here: www.ukclimbing.com/news/2024/06/hazel_grace_8b+_for_shauna_coxsey-73700

who wants to hear about that!? Not me lol

I imagine that was the old ceo?

As always with climbing shoes, it all comes down to fit - what works for one person doesn’t necessarily work for the next

@@ukclimbingofficial true! And I've chosen wrong pair of shoes 3 times now, but finally understood the importance of knowing how a shoe should fit. Earlier I've been buying down sized shoes in hopes they would fit after the break in, something they never did! The time I bought a 39,5 theory, is the dumbest thing I've ever done! They never really expanded, and i ended up with snug shoes that cut blood flow to my toes. Such a bummer, if i bought them in 40 or 40,5 they would have been the best shoes i ever had!

They're very, very different shoes, so it'd be a bit like comparing apples and pears. The Vapor S is flat, wide and relatively low volume. It's designed primarily for more recreational use, as opposed to outright performance, although it does - in my opinion - perform incredibly well too. The Satori, in comparison, is downturned, medium width and has a high volume asymmetric toe box that's designed to be worn as tight as you can possibly get them. Performance-wise it's intended for the very top end and as I said within the video - they're quite an uncompromising shoe. In short, they're very, very different and which you use would largely depend on what you're after.

@@ukclimbingofficial yeah, that makes sense. Kind of a dumb question now that I think about it🤦‍♂️

@@miloplayz7474 Not at all. I absolutely love the Vapor S and am always happy to talk about it 😅